Ron Paul And Donald Trump Feud Over Debates
Ron Paul‘s presidential campaign powerfully rejected an invitation to a debate moderated by Donald Trump, saying the selection of the reality star is “beneath the office of the Presidency and flies in the face of that office’s history and dignity.” The statement added that Trump had campaigned “frivolously” for the presidency, and said his presence at a debate would distract from the issues and add a “circus-like atmosphere.”
Paul himself told CNN that he rejected the idea that Trump could “anoint” candidates, mocking Trump’s current reputation as a GOP kingmaker.
Trump was invited to moderate the debate by conservative magazine Newsmax. The program will be shown on Ion Television, best known for syndicated broadcasts of NCIS and Criminal Minds.
Jon Huntsman also declined; “We look forward to watching Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich suck up to Trump with a big bowl of popcorn,” said a Huntsman spokesperson to Yahoo News.
Huntsman told Fox News Monday, “I’m not going to kiss his ring and I’m not going to kiss any other part of his anatomy.”
Trump fired back, calling Huntsman and Paul joke candidates, and bragging about his own prominence. This weekend, he continued to flirt with a third-party candidacy.
Paul and Huntsman’s fierce words distance them from the rest of the candidates, most of whom have raced to meet with Trump in New York City, in what has become a standard campaign stop. Mitt Romney, Herman Cain, Rick Perry, Michele Bachmann, and Newt Gingrich have all met with Trump.
The debate will take place on Dec. 27, in Des Moines, Iowa.
What do you think? Are you looking forward to Trump’s debate?
Trump is clearly moderating to raise his own profile and re-start his potential political run, I thought Newt and Mitt are smarter than agreeing to this???
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Don Trump’s job is to get Obama reelected.
Trump is a joke. Not just as a Presidential candidate, but as a human being. His hair is clown colored and shaped, what more proof do you need.
If you watch this sham of a “debate,” shame on you.
This is just the latest “monkey shines” the establishment is attempting to derail TRUE CHANGE in America!
The media’s ignoring, ridicule and outright smearing of Ron Paul while bolstering other candidates illustrates nicely the two great modern schemes operating in American politics facilitated by the mainstream media – those being: the phony “two party paradigm” and the creation of the phony GOP “tea party”. First, the concept of a modern “tea party” came on board with the Ron Paul supporters back in 2007 during the campaign. Actual pounds of tea were to be dropped by a hovering blimp into Boston Harbor on the historic day of the original Boston tea party against British tyranny as a gesture of defiance to the status quo (lost of civil liberties; unending illegal wars; nation building; destruction of our currency; torture and extraordinary rendition; abuse of civil liberties under the bogus Patriot Act etc.). Party affiliation, national origin, race etc. wasn’t important – all were welcomed – only a love of liberty and a willingness to fight for it and hence among those veterans the movement is rarely regarded as “tea party” but instead the “liberty” or “freedom” movement and it is definitely not GOP or Gingrich, Perry or Bachmann!!
In 2008 when the “dynamic duo” – McCain and his side kick – Palin got their bloodied grinded behinds handed back to them by Obama. This is exactly what the mainstream media had orchestrated for the previous year – and the rank and file GOP voters predictably bought it – they bought media served “stooge of the day” McCain and side kick hook line and sinker! I invite you to research progressive AP reporter Liz Soldoti’s coverage of McCain 2008 and see how she systematically built him up “straight talk express” to become the GOP front runner – the MSM knowing he was hopeless and would get creamed by Obama!
Immediately after the election in an attempt to do damage control the RNC/GOP and right leaning media embraced “tea party” to co-opt the movement for the progressive neo-cons – enter the right media ala FOX and the likes of social controlling neo-con personalities such as Rush Limbaugh; Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity. The left media, MSNBC etc. and their social controlling components: Keith Obermann; Chris Mathews and Rachel Maddow in an effort to maintain and reinforce the phony two party paradigm immediately hyped them “racists” and “secessionists” nut jobs stressing the “tea party” as against newly elected President Obama primarily because he was black!
Hence: the term “tea party” as currently hyped in the media is a creation of the mainstream media and simply equates to good old American progressive “neo-con”! The concept of “tea party” they propagate is a primary tool currently used to continue the “two party paradigm”. Anyone uninformed enough to buy in is being seriously played and hasn’t taken the effort to analyze the actual facts – just taking the media’s word for it like a good little boy or girl and maintain the “status quo”.
Allow me to go a little Taoist on you – the “real” tea party you hear about is not the “REAL” tea party!
Strange as it may seem, there is actually little socio-economic and political ideological difference between – lets say, MSNBC and FOX – only the illusion of one! Both the (so – called) right and left factions of American mainstream media are all globalists – wanting to maintain and expand American empire with all their corporate owners having direct BOD relationships with the giants in the military industrial complex such as: GE; Texaco; Chevron; Boeing; Lockheed Martin; Citigroup; Rockwell Automation; Chase, WorldCom, and JP Morgan; Halliburton, etc. and thereby financially benefit directly from the ongoing nation building and entrenched foreign occupations.
So the mainstream media as a whole created the current “GOP tea party” as is hyped today, to attempt to contain and control the actual legitimate non-partisan “liberty movement” (being the actual REAL “tea party” started by Ron Paul supporters in 2007) – it being a threat to the status quo and use the phony “two party paradigm” to help them do it. This is the illusion of two different parties counter balancing one another – please don’t say you can’t remember recently this spring when republican Senator McCain and democrat Senator Kerry went arm in arm bellowing for illegal war with Libya? Do you not find it is strange that Obama never changed Bush/Cheney policies regarding: torture; bailouts; WARS; Patriot Act and lost of civil liberties and abuse of American citizenry. Exactly – both parties want huge intrusive central authority – its just one side prefers to balloon the size of government with aggressive warfare and less social welfare and vice-versa. Americans are spoon fed the “two party paradigm” as a controlling device through the lame-stream media – that’s why globalist neo-cons like Bachmann and Perry are being hyped as “tea party” and that is why they are desperately trying to co-opt many of Ron Paul’s life-long political positions on things, such as: auditing the Federal Reserve.
For years have you scratched your head wondering – why are our representatives in DC doing this? Are they trying to destroy America? Unfortunately in a twisted sense – they are. For the globalist in both parties it’s not about gaining a secure and prosperous American Republic; upholding liberty maintaining the supreme law of the land – the U.S. Constitution. It is totally about maintaining an economic empire for a select group of oligarchs using the American military – our blood and treasure! It’s about redistributing American wealth and technology and building “emerging” economies in China and India etc while de-industrializing America! It’s about destroying our education system with federal control so that our young people test dismally against students in the rest of the world in science and math! It’s about defending borders overseas while leaving our southern border in the USA open allowing for abuses of American citizens. We could go on and on about the mistreatment Americans suffer at the hands of a rogue government! However, you and I both know that throughout the process of the dismantling of America, the mainstream media tells you “its okay – remember back in 2008 when they spoon-fed us “don’t worry either top tier candidate, Obama or McCain will get us on track”! Now the media is trying to force-feed us their GOP choice (Gingrich or Romney) AGAIN!
Yeah right! We know how that worked out!
The media is currently working overtime to convince voters that the candidates like: Romney; Gingrich; Perry and Bachmann are significantly different than President Obama – this is definitely pure BS! All of the 2012 candidates (in both parties) polling significant numbers nationally are deep in the pocket of international banking and the military industrial complex EXCEPT RON PAUL! This corrupt system needs an on-going puppet in the White House to keep bailing out criminals and keep this bogus war on terror going and ramped up bombing and saber rattling all awhile the media keeping the American people placated with the “two party paradigm” allowing for global elites to steal American national wealth and sovereignty! Ron Paul is the only candidate significantly different than Obama and therefore the ONLY ONE capable of beating him on issues that the majority of Americans heavily support (like ending: illegal wars; torture and illegal detention; abolishing the Patriot Act and ending the Federal Reserve; stopping the failing “war on drugs and the abuses of IRS and TSA as well as getting us out of treaty organizations that rob us of our sovereignty such as: NATO and NAFTA etc.)
The “establishment” is in a real bind – the media’s “ignore” phase for the “Ron Paul problem” hasn’t worked and the “discredit” phase is now underway. These types of tactics are standard procedure in any third world banana republic to marginalize legitimate opposition to the regime and status quo. They have NO place in a free representative Republic!
So, fellow Americans if by now you haven’t acknowledged that Obama is a corporate puppet you are in serious denial or part of the subversion! If you want things to continue under the rule of the global “banksters’ and “tanksters” – maintain the status quo and allowing tyranny to grow under the phony “two party paradigm” – vote for the spoon- fed media’s “top tier”: Obama; Romney; Gingrich; Perry; Bachmann etc., but if you want things to truly change and have the assurance that you will have the right to be heard and not silenced then begin to restore America liberty now and support Ron Paul! He can’t be bought – and the establishment knows it! They must use every means available to attempt to marginalize him – hence the blackout, ridicule and smear! Check your states regulations for rules of primary voting and do whatever it takes (you may have to join the Republican Party) so that you can cast your primary vote for Ron Paul.
WE WON’T GET FOOLED AGAIN! Ron Paul 2012!!!
@TommyO, you just took the words right of my mouth! RON PAUL OR NO ONE AT ALL!!!
Trump is a windbag and full of hot air… all that fuss and guffaw will drop like his blood pressure after a double-tap shotgun blast to the head. Watch him get his and see if that hair is even real when the guns come out on the Zombie Walk of Fame at http://dregstudiosart.blogspot.com/2011/10/07-countdown-to-halloween-donald-trump.html
Honestly, who the hell does Donald Trump think he is? Just because he is a billionaire, he thinks he can pick and choose who gets to run the country? His blatant disregard for the office of presidency is appalling. I sincerely hope the rest of the GOP candidates decline the offer of performing in this circus act. I’d laugh if it was just Trump moderating Gingrich and Santorum.
Hats off to TommyO- that was well written and I think a very good general representation of what is going on here. I am very scared for my country if RP does not get elected. I am a musician and artist and when I try to talk about these things to my friends here in NYC, I don’t get a lot of ear time- they seem to think that this election year is just like all the others, where we have no control and the money people and media will control everything so why care? I am trying to inform them that this one really matters this time and people like us can do our part- even if it is just getting the word out and do some homework. Good luck to us- RP 2012
I am a big Ron Paul supported, so lets get that OUT right up front. I think this would be the perfect night for Dr. Paul to float his VP nominee. I believe that most folks who are on the fence in this decision of who to vote for are looking for more information about the candidates. An early decision by Ron Paul to announce is VP would allow people to realy see What kind of presidency Dr. Paul would have. His VP out of all of them will be the most important in swaying public opinion. I am very confident that if Paul did this he would be front page news and the Trump debate would be relegated to the back burner. And if would piss the hell out of “CHUMP”, and I like that! Peace, Love, Dove, Defense!
I can’t believe people buy Trump’s whole “I am an rich arrogant a$$hole” persona. The fact that the media are beckoned to him every time he opens his loud mouth proves to me the integrity of journalism is something of the past.